wwe_attitude wrote:As somebody who's been a boxing fan for almost 20 years & an MMA fan for close to 12 years, I have to say that the referee was completely in the wrong for how he handled the whole hitting behind the head thing. Brock was unloading fast, powerful shots down on Mir & all of them hit legally, and Mir turned his head away as Brock was in the act of striking and he got caught in the back of the head once. You do not stop the action & stand both guys up and deduct a point away for something like that without giving a verbal warning first; let alone do it that early in the fight.
Jeez, I knew it was only a matter of time..
First of all, Lesnar didn't only hit Mir in the back of the head once. Watch the fight again, he does it multiple times (more from even before what they showed on the replay). Second, yes, you are supposed to stop the fight and separate both fighters in such a circumstance. I said it in a previous post, but it's the same as a knee to a downed opponent. You don't just warn them and watch for it. If you think it significantly affected the other fighter, you step in. Sure, we've seen verbal warnings for back of the head shots when you've got those little pitter-patter shots. But it's a little different when you've got a gorilla frantically pounding away on the back of someone's skull.
wwe_attitude wrote:It just seemed kind of fishy to me. The UFC would've looked kind of stupid to have a former pro wrestler, who hasn't even wrestled competitively in almost 8 years, come in and destroy one of their poster boy fighters and former champions and Brock would've done just that had the referee not made that stupid call.
Since when is Mir the UFC poster boy?? That's like saying that they wanted Gonzaga to knock out Cro Cop. Of course they wanted Lesnar to win. As others have said, why else would they have invested so much in him if they just wanted to prove some point about professional wrestling? Brock two times more just for showing up than Mir did for winning the thing. To think that it's just some conspiracy against Lesnar is absolutely ridiculous.
wwe_attitude wrote:All the haters who want to dismiss Brock as a joke because he lost need to get their head out of their *** and watch that fight with an unbiased mindset. Brock came in there on pure potential alone and basically zero MMA experience and manhandled one of the best heavyweight jiu jitsu fighters of all-time. He took him down no problem, dropped him with a strike no problem, and dominated him on the ground until he made a mistake chalked up to inexperience. Give him a couple months training in a better camp & pick up some better submission defense techniques, and he would murder Mir in a rematch I believe.
I think you need to watch that fight with an unbiased mindset. Brock did as well as anyone would expect a huge guy like him to do. He's like Bob Sapp. Sure, he's going to win some fights and ragdoll some people in the process just because he's freakishly strong, but he's also going to lose some (at least in the early stages of his career) because of a lack of skill/experience.
wwe_attitude wrote:If this fight would've taken place in the streets & not in the realm of MMA, Frank Mir would be laying in a morgue somewhere as we speak.
Yeah, too bad they don't hold UFC's in back alleys, huh? Maybe that's because MMA is a respectable sport. Lesnar knew the rules, he knew what he was getting into, this is hardly a good excuse for his loss.
TVS wrote:Not to take anything away from Mir, but c'mon - any trained MMA fighter WILL NOT leave his leg in between Mir's and TURN AWAY. That was total inexperience right there.
Give Mir some credit. He was throwing his legs up for tons of submissions, all while eating hard shots to the face. And then, that trip into the knee bar... brilliant. That's my early nominee for submission of the year, it was absolutely beautiful. It's one of those things that only seems to work in the gym, absolutely beautiful display of skill. And, to Lesnar's credit, after being tripped, he did exactly what he was supposed to do. He bucked hard, but Mir was able to hold on, and we know what happened after that.